Is NY Certificate Service a Scam?
Register a website and within two weeks, you’ve got about 1,000 trees worth of junk mail. The only difference when you incorporate is that you also receive lots of scary, official-looking mail too. However, what if the junk mail also looks like official mail? Scam artists can be really clever in hiding their advertisements as official requirements from the State of New York. When I received mail from NY Certificate Service, I must admit that I wasn’t sure whether or not it was official or a mail scam. I don’t want you to have to go through the same forensic hassle.
What is a New York Certificate of Status?
Let’s start our exploration with a better understanding of what a New York Certificate of Status is and is not. States issue these certificates to provide an attestation that a corporation is in good standing with licenses, taxes, and all other statutory legal obligations to maintain corporation with the state. A corporation may need to provide this to another state or bank to prove that their corporation is a viable legal entity. States will place an expiration date on the certificate, usually within 90 days, to prevent the corporation from supplying the certificate after it’s status has changed years later.
What Makes NY Certificate Service Look Legitimate?
Let’s look at the mail piece itself and see if we can come to some conclusions about whether or not it is a scam. To be sure, several elements would make any business owner believe the mail is official from New York State. Let’s examine these items first.
The mailpiece prints a document number. If you’ve been filing for your corporation recently, you’d notice the use of this numbering system tends to be an important feature for how New York State processes documents. The form also has my business name, which is surprisingly disarming. It’s easy to wonder, “why would I get this mail if it wasn’t from the State of New York? Who else has my address?” In reality, if you’ve filed articles of incorporation, then your address is a matter of public record. From now on, absolutely anyone can find your address. The notice date and due date are also common elements in official New York State correspondence. These features give a sense of urgency which can cause anyone to activate fight or flight thinking instead of rational analysis. This is helpful in scams, as our danger-avoidance instincts make us more susceptible to grift tactics. Finally, the form came on watermarked paper, which looks more official since it’s a more expensive bond of paper.
Luckily, these are the only features that look official. However, these features are often enough to confuse and trick unsuspecting business owners, because they are the things that pop out first.
Is NY Certificate Service a Scam?
Don’t be fooled by official-looking elements jumping off the page at you. NY Certificate Service is most definitely a mail scam. Here are all the ways we can know to throw this piece of fraud in the blue bin.
Feel of Urgency
A common tactic that fraudsters use with mail pieces is urgency. This induces the victim to act without a great deal of rational thought. The form gives me only ten days to act! That’s definitely the crazy turnaround that New York State often imposes on corporations and it’s not a lot of time. There are also bolded statements to “Follow Instructions Exactly.” These would be important if they were official New York State correspondence. As we will see, they are just a smokescreen.
Why would I need a Certificate of Status?
The urgency created in the form is meant to distract you from a bigger question, why do I need a Certificate of Status? The form tries to answer that question with a very small amount of truth spread out over too much bread (yes, that is a LOTR reference). The form says that you might need to provide your Certificate of Status for loans and other business purposes. However, since the certificate expires, why in the world would we want one right now? Readers, do not purchase a Certificate of Status unless it has been requested. To be honest, most banks and businesses use W-9s to validate business standing and information and they are free. It will probably be an unusual and infrequent occasion when a Certificate of Status is needed. The responsible thing for a corporation to do would be to wait for a request to see a Certificate of Status before requesting the state to issue one.
NY Certificate Service admits that they are a scam
NY Certificate Service has a very small line, printed on a fold that says “This is not a government agency.” It’s so easy to miss and that’s intentional. It also means that you are not compelled to purchase this service. IGNORE the respond by date! This is not Official New York State correspondence. It is just junk mail.
NY Certificate Service is a Scam
While Certificates of Status are real and there may be an outside chance you may need one someday, NY Certificate Service is a scam. If you really need a Certificate of Status, you can order one through NYS for $25. Only do so if someone has actually requested to see the certificate. Since you need a seal from NYS to make the certificate official. Paying NY Certificate Service $87.25 means that they are either sending you a fraudulent certificate or they are charging you money to contact the state on your behalf with the same information you write on the form and make you pay $62.25 extra to do so.
What a sham! Please do not fall victim to this scam.
2/7/2021 Update #1:
The Better Business Bureau has NY Certificate Service rated as an F and customer satisfaction is 1 out of 5. Some complaints relate to paying for services without receiving their official certificate. Please do not use this company.
12/20/2022 Update #2:
I spoke with the Better Business Bureau about NY Certificate Service they too confirmed that this is a scam. I did file a claim against NY Certificate Service with NYS, but I’ve never heard back from the state about the complaint.
Thank you so much. I got the letter on 12. And it states that it was issued on 4. And I have to respond until 14. I wasn’t familiar with New York certificate service so I googled it and found your article and it helped me realize it’s a scam and should not send any money.
Thank you so much and God bless you!
Very helpful article. 100% scam. The address they ask you to send the money to is not the state office address.
Isn’t the New York State Attorney General supposed to protect the citizens from scams like this?
This is crap I just sent them the money order
I just received this letter and it telling me to pay $87.25 by February 14th 2022 and I received the same letter and it’s telling me to pay $79.25 so what I did is googled it and this article came up and I read everything and what you said it definitely a scam thank you so much appreciate
Thanks for all this information You confirmed what I thought, We appreciate your time informing us. This was very helpful
Great article. I appreciate your taking the time to explain this fraudulent activity by companies like this. I most certainly will not be sending away for my “certificate of status” and paying them unnecessarily. Thank you
thank you so much!!!
Incredibly helpful, thank you! My only question is why does NY State allows this scam to continue?
Thank you for the info! Very helpful!
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!
Great post!
From the moment I had an envelope in my hand I knew it was a scam. .com address? Red flag. I filed an LLC two days ago and already a letter? Big waving red flag. Smithtown, NY with apt number? Are you for real?! Headed to the Google search and got this site, which only confirmed my suspicions.
Really appreciate this article. Had a check written when i noticed the “not a business entity disclaimer,” found your website after. Thanks so much for writing this!
thank you for the info
Filed in July 2023 and got the same letter in the mail a very short time later. First thing I do in cases like this, is to google the address and have a look at Google Maps. Immediate red flag as the Secretary of State is unlikely to have their office in a hardware, pool supply or paint store. The small print is also a giveaway, actually stating that this notice is a solicitation for your business.
Thank you for writing this article and confirming my suspicions.
Can’t believe that this scam has been going on for such a long time as the original articles dates from October 2020 and we are now July 2023.
Hey Folks, Thank you so much. You just saved me $87.50 I will put that money for better use. “Doctors Without Borders”. These scammers who prey on others, should be thrown in jail, and fined.
My bank contacted me about fraudulant activity when I tried to pay online. So I googled it and this info surprised me and saved me $87.25, Thanks so Much for taking time to post this!!
They need to shut this clown down! Thankfully I googled it and you’re helpful post came up, thanks !
I received exact same mail as shown in image above..almost got defrauded…the thing that caught my eye was, ‘this is not a government agency’ message. I looked it up and came upon this website. Thank you so so much!!!!
thank you, so much I decided to look this up because I’m wondering why do I have to pay again when I already paid the state big scan!
Got two letters, one asking $87.5 for business registration and the other one $295 for safety manual. Don’t recognize the business name at all so I googled and found this article. Thanks for the information
Thank you for the information and for making me aware. I looked official.
Thank you so much!!! I just received it in the mail
I will throw it out immediately .
Great article, thank you so much. I thought it was fishy when I received almost two exact copies of the same request, each with different response dates and dollar amounts. I started to Google when I was trying to figure out which one was legit. Turns out neither of them are!.